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 | rzlincoln
Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9 wisconsin 
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2007-11-10 148066
I'm trying to compare the lift capacity of an LA854 with other brands. The Kubota website doesn't say if their lift capacity is at max. height, 59", or what. Does anyone know? I'm comparing to a JD 400X, and wondering which has more lift capacity.
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York 
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2007-11-10 148068
Where does the 59 inches come from? Just looking at the literature I don't see anything that uses that measurement.
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| rzlincoln
Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9 wisconsin
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2007-11-10 148070
That's the problem. Kubota doesn't say at what height their capacity is measured.
John Deere gives lift capacities at max. height and at 59" for both pivot pin and 500mm forward.
The 59" comes from JD specs.
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 | candoarms
Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1932 North Dakota 
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2007-11-10 148072
Rzlincoln,
I found the specs for the LA854 loader.
See the link below.
Joel ....
Link: LA854 Loader Specifications
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| rzlincoln
Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9 wisconsin
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2007-11-10 148081
Thanks Joel.
I've seen those specs. and that's what my question is about. I want to know if that stated lift capacity is measured at maximum height or not.
The other manufacturers give capacities at max. height and at lower heights. It seems there is a significant difference between what the loader can lift to 4 or 5 feet, and what it lifts to 9 feet. I am trying to make a fair comparison, so am looking for the same measurement of both loaders. ....
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 | cutter
Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1307 The South Shore of Lake Ontario, New York
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2007-11-11 148093
I wonder if the lift capacity is different due to the perceived safety aspect of the manufacturer. If they say the loader is capable of lifting a thousand pounds to four feet into the air but only 600 pounds to nine feet they are more or less protecting themselves if you tip the machine over aren't they? ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2007-11-11 148098
After pushing three different FEL's to the limits I can tell you that they are self limiting.
For example, my current loader will lift a pallet with 33 cinder blocks (roughly a 950 pound load) about 24 inches and then it will not go any higher.
If I add a half dozen blocks it only raises about a foot. Pull some off and it will pump itself up higher in proportion to the amount removed.
Another observation: the curl has a bit more oomph than the lift. A few years ago I was harvesting some very large sections of an ancient cottonwood.
Sometimes I could get under the load but it was too heavy to lift straight up. In most of those cases I could curl it a few inches off the ground and create enough clearance to move the piece to a place where I could work on it.
Before your try this at home make double dang sure you have the maximum recommended rear ballast in place and not just the box blade you normally use.
I don't mess with loads like these unless I have at least 1000 pounds of counter-measure slung off the back end.
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| cutter
Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1307 The South Shore of Lake Ontario, New York
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2007-11-11 148099
Sounds as though it is related to the change in leverage presented by the loader arms moving upward and the cylinder extending as the unit rises doesn't it?
I have not noticed the differences as you have other than the curl being more powerful. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2007-11-12 148132
There's much controversy over spec's, and not just limited to the tractor industry.
Witness the (particularly truck) commercials the auto industry puts out, they're better at finding niches to brag about than the baseball guys are.
Cutter is right though, the bucket moves further out as it rises up, at about the point Mark mentioned, ~24" up on a SCUT or smaller CUT, ~36" on a CUT, this results in a much increased load to get up past this point.
I would take any loader 'rating' with a SACK of salt though, I've yet to see any company offer 'real world' results, they are all hypothetical figures calculated based on theoretical best numbers. The pump SHOULD make X PSI, the cylinders SHOULD make X pounds of lift, etc., but the machines don't (can't) actually produce that amount of lift.
Case in point, most figures I've seen are based on hydraulic fluid at 70° or some such figure, try putting your hand on a control valve or fitting of a hard working unit and tell me the fluid is anywhere near that temperature!
I had an instance recently where I was picking up something at a dealers yard, it was palletized and still bore the shipping labels. Both the label and the manufacturers spec's agreed on the weight and it was about 800 pounds less than the 'rated' lift of a tractor the dealers employee brought out to load the item on my trailer. This was a brand new tractor just having been PDI'd and it would not BUDGE the pallet never mind lift it. The mechanic took it back in the shop to check it over while the salesman fired up a big old yard forklift. When the mechanic came back out he said he was mystified, everything was according to spec on the tractor.
This has been my experience too over the years, the 'real world' capacity of a FEL is somewhere about 60% to 70% of the 'rated' capacity of the unit.
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| charlieK
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 136 kentucky
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2007-11-12 148163
shedding more light on this, my L3130 723 loader 6'bucket w/tooth bar will lift my '55 chevy front end up enough to block it with no trouble. that said it will barely lift a full bucket of dirt high enough to load my single axle dump truck.lol. chas. ....
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