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ncrunch32
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2005-12-29          121867


Sometimes if I use quote punctuation in Tractorpoint it gets converted to the words "inches and feet". How do I avoid this?



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kwschumm
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2005-12-29          121870


If I understand you correctly, often you can precede special characters with a backslash so systems interpret the characters literally. Not sure if that works here, but I haven't noticed the problem you refer to. ....


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2005-12-29          121872


I've noticed that before too. Here's a "test."
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2005-12-29          121873


That was without any backslashes to I guess it doesn't convert anymore.
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2005-12-29          121875


It doesn't convert on posts or replies. It DOES convert on photo text. My pic #20 - "She foot s the one" appears instead of "She's the one". I tried the backslash before and after ( /'/ ) but that gave me ( / foot / ) also.
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2005-12-29          121876


That looks like a forward slash /. I meant the backslash . The DOS style directory slash vs. the unix style forward slash /. ....


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2005-12-29          121880


I own this problem, since I pass your Photo content around a bit escaping the quotes was giving me a headache so as a hack I just converted it to feet or inches, not perfect of course. I will look at fixing this in the future.

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2005-12-29          121881


"It doesn't convert on posts or replies. It DOES convert on photo text."

Now I remember. That's where I saw it before. :)
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2005-12-29          121885


Ahh, the "how many escapes do I need to have" problem. I know it well. ....


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2005-12-29          121886


Thanks guys - just thought maybe I was the only one on the site who didn't know how to override the conversion. For now I will just ommit the quotes. Ken - yes I always screw up "forward slash" from "backslash". When I was first starting out with Fortran I had the most difficult time distinguishing 0 from O. ....


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2005-12-29          121891


I can never tell a zero from the letter O unless the zero is slashed. It's frustrating trying to enter a 16 character software license when those two characters are confused. As far as forward/backward slashes I have a memory trick for those. If the slash was a little man walking left to right he would either be leaning forward or leaning backward. It really bugged me when DOS used the wrong slash for directories and I confused them for a long time. ....


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2005-12-29          121897


Ken, I beg to differ. It was UNIX that used the "wrong" direction. :)
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2005-12-29          121899


Dave, only problem with that argument is UNIX predates DOS :) UNIX got it's start way back in 1969 when Ken Thompson wrote a the first version on a PDP-7. QDOS was written by Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products in 79 and sold to MS in 1980 and renamed DOS. ....


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2005-12-29          121900


kw,

just to be sure it was not this Ken Thompson who wrote that.

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2005-12-29          121901


Are you sure? I'm sure the author of UNIX liked tractors too! ....


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2005-12-29          121906


kw,
Is that what you think he spent his money on? Could be.


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2005-12-29          121911


Ken, as you know, it wasn't much of an argument. :) UNIX is so much more powerful. I didn't know that it originated in the sixties.

I still do command line compilation in Unix on an almost daily basis. But now it's some crazy mix of Linux and Unix machines needed to compile the executables that run our MRI scanners.
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2005-12-29          121922


KT, It's funny. They call the area around here the Silicon Forest since Intel and other high tech companies are big here. Many of the Intel guys I know are buying property in rural areas and getting tractors, so high tech and tractors seem to go well together. The odds are good that the other KT likes tractors :)

Dave, you're right. Unix is much more powerful that anything MS has put out. It is disturbing when marketing trumps technology. ....


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2005-12-29          121930


Anyone here ever hear of APL (A Programming Language)? A pure mathematical vector language which utilizes a special keyboard. And you read it from right to left. I worked with that for a while.


It used to be pervasive at IBM but now none of the young people there never heard of it. More then 50% of people at IBM now have less than 5 years with the company. All my recent work has been done in SAS (Statistical Analysis System). ....


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2005-12-29          121935


I did a little APL in comparative language classes. It sure is a funny language with all the unique characters. The hardest to understand for me was Forth though. ....


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2005-12-30          121966


As to marketing being stronger than the truth is not only in computers.

It began in DC. Or at least it was/is being fine tuned there. If limited to there we would be okay, now it is everwhere it seems. If you are fortunate enough to have lived when you could trust someone's word you may realize what has been lost.

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2005-12-30          121970


Ken, nice to know that someone else has been introduced to APL. The last I knew there were a few pockets of people in Wall Street that used APL. Other than that, I think it has been on its way out for a while. Forth, huh? I see it on the web but never heard of it before. You obviously are on the leading edge :) ....


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2005-12-30          121976


I wouldn't call Forth leading edge. I was introduced to it in school and never had a need to really learn it. Then while writing some new instrumentation code for a customer they gave me some old Forth source code that implemented some of their proprietary algorithms. It was no fun figuring that mess out. Some silicon manufacturers used to make processors that were called "forth engines" specifically designed to handle forth. It's a shame these days that most everything is C/C++. I miss choosing the best language for the job at hand. C is poor in several areas and C++ is just a mess. ....


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2005-12-30          121981


Ncrunch32 - BTW SAS has dropped the acronym - it's now just SAS - doesn't stand for anything. Happy programming and don't forget your semicolon - happy new year;
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